Frank Turek was near Charlie Kirk on the day he was killed at UVU. A year later, he sits down with Greg to talk about grief, evil, and what Charlie’s legacy means for the church now.
From there, the conversation opens up into Frank’s new book, The War on Reality (co-written with Phoenix Hayes, with a foreword by Erika Kirk), and the cultural questions Frank is hearing most on college campuses today.
In this episode:
– The night Charlie was killed and what Erika said to Frank at the hospital
– Why the top three objections to Christianity today are all about morality
– The transgender conversation, detransitioners, and what to actually say to your kid
– Why socialism keeps making a comeback on campus
– The rise of antisemitism after October 7th
– AI, hallucinations, and the "Madagascar" test that failed 33 out of 35 students
– Plus: Beatles trivia, desert island songs, and Greg’s awkward encounter with Ringo
Learn more about Frank’s book at thewaronreality.com.
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Timestamps:
00:13 Reflecting on Charlie Kirk one year later
02:57 Why this isn’t PTSD — it’s normal grief
03:40 What Charlie’s death revealed about evil and eternity
07:24 Erika Kirk’s words at the hospital
10:01 How campus objections shifted from atheism to morality
14:19 Is the church contributing to the war on reality?
18:27 The trans social contagion and detransitioners
25:47 Why socialism keeps making a comeback
29:21 Why Christians must engage politically
32:59 The dangers and deceptions of AI
37:29 The spiritual roots of rising antisemitism
42:27 Rapid-fire: dinner guests, go-to verses, last sermons
52:57 Beatles talk and witnessing to Ringo Starr
59:07 Why he wrote The War on Reality
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